Laister-Kauffman XCG-10A 'Trojan Horse'
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Keith H. Thoms , VA | I am a huge fan of the CG-10A.
Its 2,935 drawings are available on six microfilm rolls from Smithsonian Archives as DM-0000465 "Inactive Contractor's Engineering Drawings & Data (Laister-Kauffmann)" EDM 462c, December 1954. It cost about $180 in copying fees.
Current article has a summary of the CG-10A in our Joint Chief of Staff's magazine:
http://www.ndu.edu/inss/Press/jfq_pages/editions/i48/29.pdf
Some simple concept exploration using the CG-10A as a baseline model, including its snatch pickup measurements:
http://stinet.dtic.mil/cgi-bin/GetTRDoc?AD=A468743
Keep checking stinet.dtic.mil for another shortly.
My sincerest apologies, J. Kauffmann Murray and family, on the misspelling of the Kauffmann name in these documents.
A good history of the CG-10A is covered in “Silent Ones: WWII Invasion Glider Test and Experiment”, 2001, by Charles L. Day.
J. Kauffmann Murray: I would love to scan in or otherwise collect electronic copies of your L-K photos. Charles is interested and qualified to help your identification. To avoid posting contact information to any of these long-lived public forums, I ask you to setup an account and then reach us through our posts:
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02/23/2008 @ 03:59 [ref: 19746] |
J. Kauffmann Murray St. Louis, MO | A small point - but Kauffmann is not spelled correctly on this site. Also- I have many pictures that my dad had from Laister-Kauffmann and I hope to post them someday to help identify who and what they show. 02/09/2008 @ 19:47 [ref: 19627] |
C Plescia , OR | I first learned of the CG-10 reading a 1993 edition of the Oregon Vets News. I was astonished to see what I thought was a C-130 Glider!
Clearly Laister was ahead of his time.
I found a video clip from a movie shot on a test flight. The Test pilot raved about it's handling.
I have been looking for construction plans for building a CG-10.
Anyone who could help me in locating plans for the full size construction of a CG-10 would be appreciated. 08/08/2007 @ 06:51 [ref: 17518] |
John R. Mason , CA | Please excuse my repetition of notes on 12-08-05. I kept getting a note saying that the time limit had expired. So I kept trying again. It appears that it only referred to returning to the previous thing that I had looked at. Sorry. 12/12/2005 @ 01:02 [ref: 11955] |
John R. Mason Camarillo, CA | I worked on the design of the Laister-Kauffman gliders. A not from a Jim Moffett indicates that the noses of the XCG-10 and the XCG10-A were the same. No, the -10 had nose loading cargo doors under the cockpit. The -10A eliminated this feature. It retained aft clamshell cargo loading doors under the tail boom. The -10A had a much larger fuselage, and was a completely new design. 12/08/2005 @ 23:44 [ref: 11928] |
John R. Mason Camarillo, CA | I worked on the design of the Laister-Kauffman gliders. A not from a Jim Moffett indicates that the noses of the XCG-10 and the XCG10-A were the same. No, the -10 thd nose loading cargo doors under the cockpit. The -10A eliminated this feature. It retained aft clamshell cargo loading doors under the tail boom. 12/08/2005 @ 23:40 [ref: 11927] |
John R. Mason Camarillo, CA | I worked on the design of the Laister-Kauffman gliders. A not from a Jim Moffett indicates that the noses of the Xcg-10 and the Xcg10-A were the same. No, the -10 thd nose loading cargo doors under the cockpit. The -10A eliminated this feature. It retained aft clamshell cargo loading doors under the tail boom. 12/08/2005 @ 23:38 [ref: 11926] |
John R. Mason Camarillo, CA | I worked in the design groups on the Laister-Kaufmann gliders, and I see a note from a Jim Moffett indicating that the noses of the XCG10 and the XCG10A appear to be the same. This is incorrect. The XCG10 had nose loading clamshell doors for loading cargo under the pilot and copilot cockpit. The XCG-10A eliminated this feature as glider noses were often smashed during combat landings. The XCG-10A retained aft clamshell cargo loading doors under the tail boom. The -10A had a much larger fuselage than the -10 and was a completely new fuselage design. 12/08/2005 @ 23:29 [ref: 11925] |
John R. Mason Camarillo, CA | I worked in the design groups on the Laister -Kauffman gliders, and I see a note from a Jim Moffett indicating that the noses of the XCG-10 and the XCG10A appear to be the same. This is not correct. The XCG-10 had large clamshell loading doors for cargo in the nose under the pilot and copilot cockpit. This feature was eliminated in the XCG-10A as many glider noses were smashed in combat landings. The -10A retained only aft clamshell cargo loading doors under the tail boom. The -10A fuselage was larger than the -10 and was a completely new design. 12/08/2005 @ 23:04 [ref: 11924] |
Everard Bakker Eemnes Holland Europa, OTH | Cal, thank you very much for your beautiful pictures of the B-25!
With kind regards,
Everard 07/18/2005 @ 03:04 [ref: 10782] |